[guardian-dev] Gilgamesh, FireChat etc

[Paul Gardner-Stephen]

Hello,

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Nathan of Guardian <
nathan at guardianproject.info> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 08:21 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen wrote:
> > Hello Nathan,
> >
> > Root would not be required to use this transport.
> >
> > In other words: adding the bluetooth device name transport would allow
> > most
> > stock Android phones to mesh, albeit at low data rates (~1KB/minute), and
> > with limited range (~10metres).
>
>
> 1kb is approx 7 full length tweets or text messages, so sounds good to
> me.
>

Actually, with SMAC, our open-source tweet-compressor, it is between 12 and
20 full length tweets, depending on their composition.  That said, adding
in our authentication and meta-data headers, it probably falls back to
about 5 - 8 authenticated tweets per kilo-byte.


> Is there any repeater functionality that would extend messages beyond
> 10' as the people/phones move locations?


This would be an automatic consequence of the Rhizome protocol, which
stores and forwards.  The prioritisation algorithm would likely need some
tweaking, and I am sure there are other surprises that would have to be
dealt with to make it all work efficiently over many hops, which are
challenges that I hope we get the chance to face.

Paul.


> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Nathan of Guardian <
> > nathan at guardianproject.info> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 06:48 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I have been following the discussion about FireChat, Gilgamesh and
> the
> > > > really interesting ideas in it for using bluetooth device names to
> > > > transfer
> > > > data.
> > > >
> > > > As someone pointed out, this transport could be fairly easily used by
> > > > Serval's Rhizome store-and-forward protocol, and this is something
> that I
> > > > am actively trying to find the means to make happen.  Once we can
> make
> > > > this
> > > > work, MeshMS (end-to-end encrypted and authenticated text messaging)
> and
> > > > other Rhizome-based services will come for free.  If anyone is
> interested
> > > > in helping us add support for this into Serval Mesh, we would
> welcome it.
> > > >
> > > > Paul Gardner-Stephen.
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> > > How would this affect the root requirement?
> > >
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