[guardian-dev] owncloud + jsxc: webchat that does XMPP, OTR, and webrtc

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I'm sure it is slower than the big offerings like Google, etc.  But it
provides something that the cloud companies cannot: complete ownership of your
data and metadata.  Indeed, this is a core focus of the project.

In comparison to the big cloud services companies, its a tiny dev team and a
much newer project.  But it is a very active and very growing development
team, and so far they have shown that they are focused on the right things.
The interface is quite nice, simple, clean and easy to use.  Installing it is
amazingly easy to install considering what it does, yet it can run in large
installs.  It is built on open standards like CalDAV, CardDAV, WebDAV, XMPP, etc.

It also provides a federated file sync service, that is something that none of
the big companies do.  Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, SpiderOak, etc. all do not
inter-operate.

What I think is exciting about owncloud is that you can see the blossoming of
an productive ecosystem there.  There is a lot of interesting development
happening around it.  owncloud is demonstrating that all of these cloud
services can be federated services like email, and based on open standards and
software.  Hopefully this pace continues, and then we'll see the big cloud
companies offerings start to look like Compuserve, Novell GroupWise, etc. in
the early 90s as compared to open, standard email.

.hc

Tim Bray wrote:
> I tweeted about Owncloud and a few people came back saying, “Nice, but too
> slow and unreliable for production”.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Nathan of Guardian <
> nathan at guardianproject.info> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> I've just been playing with owncloud, and despite my hatred of PHP, I
>>> have to
>>> say owncloud is really quite impressive.  It provides a dropbox-like
>>> service,
>>> web calendar + caldav sync, and now I just found out that it can do XMPP
>>> webchat with OTR and webrtc:
>>>
>>> http://www.jsxc.org/
>>
>> Does Owncloud include an XMPP server or do you use an account elsewhere?
>>
>> Yeah, wow: End-to-end encrypted SRTP/WebRTC audio and video calls from
>> Firefox and Chrome without plugin
>>
>> also seems like "encrypted file transfer" is a planned feature. Perhaps
>> we need to coordinate with them and Jitsi on the OTRDATA front, or at
>> least find out what they are thinking.
>>
>>> This could be a super quick way to get people using OTR, while being
>>> flexible
>>> enough to work with all the standard clients.
>>
>> Agreed.
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